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BE THAT LAWYER

Steve Fretzin
Business Development
Networking
Marketing
Legal Industry
Client Development
International Staffing
Law Firms
Client Relationships
Virtual Assistant
Legal Technology
Delegation
Hiring Practices
Lead Generation
Virtual Assistance
Legal Marketing
Incremental Improvement
Golf
Sops (standard Operating Procedures)
Law Practice Growth
Taxation

BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorne... more

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In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Noel Bagwell discuss:

• Prioritize profit over revenue

• Cultivating virtue and adaptability in leadership

• Rethinking traditional metrics

• Building resilience through self-awareness

Key Takeaways:

• Sustainabl... more

In this episode, Steve Fretzin, Robert Armstrong, and Sandy Fisch discuss:

• Legal expertise without systems limits growth

• Focus outperforms expansion without infrastructure

• Value-based models outperform time-based billing in an AI-driven future... more

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Deirdre Nero discuss:

• Action can precede clarity

• Growth requires delegation, not endurance

• Authenticity strengthens leadership and trust

• Expertise must be valued to be sustainable

Key Takeaways:

• Startin... more

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Noel Andrews discuss:

• Prioritizing others to drive long-term success

• Delegation as a lever for higher-value work

• Hiring and managing support effectively

• Shifting from doing to thinking as a leader

Key Take... more

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Recent Guests

Robert Armstrong
Founders and leaders of American Academy of Estate Planning Attorneys
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Episode: Robert Armstrong & Sandy Fisch: Why Most Law Firms Never Scale
Sandy Fisch
Founders and leaders of American Academy of Estate Planning Attorneys
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Episode: Robert Armstrong & Sandy Fisch: Why Most Law Firms Never Scale
Deirdre Nero
Managing partner and founder of Nero Immigration Law
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Episode: Deirdre Nero: The Ceiling Every Solo Lawyer Hits
Mathew Kerbis
Founder of Subscription Attorney and co-founder of Prakti
Subscription Attorney, Prakti
Episode: Mathew Kerbis: How AI Is Forcing Lawyers to Rethink Pricing
Mandy McCormack
New attorney focusing on building her legal practice
Episode: Promoting Future Rainmakers
Alefiyah Lindo
An energy intuitive with a background in social work and therapy.
Episode: Alefiyah Lindo: Why Burnout Is a Signal and How to Realign for Better Results
Deborah Farone
CEO and Marketing Strategist at Farone Advisors, former Chief Marketing Officer at Debevoise & Plimpton and Cravath, Swaine & Moore
Farone Advisors
Episode: Deborah Farone: Developing Clients, Confidence, and Career Control
Charlie Gaudet
CEO and founder of Predictable Profits, specializes in helping six, seven, and eight-figure companies grow through effective systems.
Predictable Profits
Episode: Charlie Gaudet: Escape the Founder Trap and Scale Your Firm
Colleen Joyce
CEO of lawyer.com with extensive experience in legal marketing and business development.
lawyer.com
Episode: Colleen Joyce: Leading, Selling, And Scaling In A Changing Legal Market

Host

Steve Fretzin
Host, author, and lawyer coach focusing on business development strategies for attorneys. He brings a wealth of experience in helping legal professionals enhance their practices and work-life balance.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 80 ratings
  • Invaluable Resource

    As someone who works closely with attorneys on the human and organizational side of performance, I find Be That Lawyer to be an invaluable resource. Steve Fretzin brings practical, tactical insight into what it really takes to build a thriving practice—while also addressing the personal growth and mindset work that sustain long-term success. His conversations help lawyers not only elevate their business development skills, but also protect their well-being and relationships in the process. A mus... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    rachboom
    United States3 months ago
  • Value-packed podcast

    Be That Lawyer with Steve Fretzin is a powerful resource for professionals serious about growth. Steve has a talent for drawing out practical, actionable strategies from his guests—covering everything from business development to building sustainable systems. Each episode leaves you with clear takeaways you can put into practice right away. Highly recommend for lawyers and entrepreneurs alike.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ral W
    United States5 months ago
  • A Human Approach to Business Development

    Steve's approach to business development is human and practical. It's one that lawyers can fold into their lives to enhance their lives and work. This shines through in the podcast. Listen on for inspiration and practical tips.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kylitigator
    United States7 months ago
  • Steve’s show is a masterclass!

    Lawyers not understanding business is a well-worn cliche. Steve helps us grow beyond the limitations of our law school training by identifying and distilling the important business lessons from his guests’ professional journeys.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tim Semelroth
    United Statesa year ago
  • Must-listen

    Great host, great guests, great conversations!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    dianegervacio
    Philippinesa year ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Valuable insights from industry leaders and actionable advice for growth.
Great mix of personal stories and professional advice for attorneys.
Invaluable resource for lawyers seeking balance and growth.
Offers practical, actionable strategies that are easy to implement.
Hosts engaging conversations that keep the audience coming back.

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Noel Andrews: Why Delegation Is the Key to Growing a Firm
Q: With remote work, how do you know you're getting the hours?
It's about building trust and providing enough work that they stay engaged and productive without using time tracking.
Noel Andrews: Why Delegation Is the Key to Growing a Firm
Q: What's the first step that someone should take to evaluate they should hire?
Start by writing a list of tasks you'd like someone else to handle, identifying what takes your time and energy.
Promoting Future Rainmakers
Q: What makes a good client fit for coaching?
Steve explains that motivation to execute and a desire to improve are crucial for a successful coaching relationship.
Promoting Future Rainmakers
Q: What is it like being in Steve's coaching program?
Mandy describes how Steve provides bite-sized tools and focuses her on current clients to maximize existing relationships and build her practice step-by-step.
Matthew Fornaro: Building a Solo Law Firm in the Age of AI
Q: What are some of the challenges that you faced in the first six months as a solo practitioner?
I had to learn the nuts and bolts of setting up a business and navigating the legal landscape without any formal business training.

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1. Robert Armstrong
2. Sandy Fisch
3. Deirdre Nero
4. Mathew Kerbis
5. Mandy McCormack
6. Alefiyah Lindo
7. Deborah Farone
8. Charlie Gaudet

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