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BE THAT LAWYER

Steve Fretzin
Business Development
Networking
Marketing
Legal Industry
Client Development
International Staffing
Law Firms
Client Relationships
Virtual Assistant
Legal Technology
Delegation
Hiring Practices
Lead Generation
Virtual Assistance
Legal Marketing
Incremental Improvement
Sops (standard Operating Procedures)
Golf
Law Practice Growth
Billing Processes

BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorne... more

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In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Colleen Joyce discuss:

• Failing fast while managing risk

• Building a competitive legal practice intentionally

• Treating sales as listening and diagnosis

• Leading and adapting for the future of law

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In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Amy Wood discuss:

• Cultivating inner balance

• Training your career like an athlete

• Building the four pillars of success

• Managing energy and embracing growth

Key Takeaways:

• Focus on inner balance rather th... more

In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Susan Filan discuss:

• Reclaiming life before life demands it

• Asking the questions that change everything

• Stepping off the professional hamster wheel

• Choosing authenticity over performance

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In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Dustin Ruge discuss:

• Strategic decision-making in choosing clients

• Communicating value through intentional sales processes

• Adapting to AI-driven shifts in legal labor

• Rebuilding legal services through integ... more

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Recent Guests

Susan Filan
Founder of The Wake-Up Call Speaker and Coach
The Wake-Up Call
Episode: Susan Filan: Finding Joy and Peace in a High-Pressure Career
Dustin Ruge
CEO of Law Leaders with extensive experience in the legal industry and technology innovation.
Law Leaders
Episode: Dustin Ruge: Transforming the Legal Landscape Through Strategy, Value, and AI
Pam Meissner
CFO and COO at CathCap
CathCap
Episode: Pam Meissner: Creating Law Firms That Thrive Long Term
Adam Williams
Co-founder of Pennywise Tax Strategies
Pennywise Tax Strategies
Episode: Adam Williams: Maximizing Tax Strategy For Law Firms
Ben Dach
Partner at Pearson Ferdinand and a patent attorney
Pearson Ferdinand
Episode: Ben Dach: Growing Through Guidance and Experience
Walt Hampton
CEO of Summit Success, former litigation lawyer turned coach
Summit Success
Episode: Walt Hampton: Building A Career That Feeds Your Soul
Brian Haugh
President of Shapiro Legal Search with extensive experience in recruiting within the legal sector.
Shapiro Legal Search
Episode: Brian Haugh: Mastering the Lateral Move
Dr. Rachel Boehm
Founder of RB Strategies, specializing in change management and organizational behavior.
RB Strategies
Episode: Dr. Rachel Boehm: Sustaining Excellence Through Resilience
Charles Gallaer
Lawyer at Aaron Fox Schiff
Aero Fox
Episode: Charles Gallaer: Simplifying the Practice to Amplify the Impact

Host

Steve Fretzin
Host with expertise in business development and coaching for legal professionals, focusing on enhancing marketing strategies and practice growth.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 78 ratings
  • Invaluable Resource

    As someone who works closely with attorneys on the human and organizational side of performance, I find Be That Lawyer to be an invaluable resource. Steve Fretzin brings practical, tactical insight into what it really takes to build a thriving practice—while also addressing the personal growth and mindset work that sustain long-term success. His conversations help lawyers not only elevate their business development skills, but also protect their well-being and relationships in the process. A mus... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    rachboom
    United States2 months ago
  • Value-packed podcast

    Be That Lawyer with Steve Fretzin is a powerful resource for professionals serious about growth. Steve has a talent for drawing out practical, actionable strategies from his guests—covering everything from business development to building sustainable systems. Each episode leaves you with clear takeaways you can put into practice right away. Highly recommend for lawyers and entrepreneurs alike.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ral W
    United States3 months ago
  • A Human Approach to Business Development

    Steve's approach to business development is human and practical. It's one that lawyers can fold into their lives to enhance their lives and work. This shines through in the podcast. Listen on for inspiration and practical tips.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kylitigator
    United States6 months ago
  • Steve’s show is a masterclass!

    Lawyers not understanding business is a well-worn cliche. Steve helps us grow beyond the limitations of our law school training by identifying and distilling the important business lessons from his guests’ professional journeys.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tim Semelroth
    United Statesa year ago
  • Must-listen

    Great host, great guests, great conversations!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    dianegervacio
    Philippinesa year ago

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Positive feedback emphasizes the variety of expert guests, which contributes to a rich learning experience for listeners.
Listeners commend the host for creating an engaging atmosphere that combines actionable insights with real-world experiences.
Many reviews highlight the practical value of the discussions, noting that they provide immediate takeaways for legal professionals seeking growth.
The podcast is praised for its relatability and focus on common challenges faced by attorneys in practice today.

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Dustin Ruge: Transforming the Legal Landscape Through Strategy, Value, and AI
Q: What is Dustin's big mistake?
His biggest mistake was not being quicker in recognizing market shifts and adapting accordingly.
Dustin Ruge: Transforming the Legal Landscape Through Strategy, Value, and AI
Q: How is AI going to affect the legal community and the associates?
AI is likely to replace many entry-level legal tasks, moving toward a model where automation and efficiency will change the demand for associate roles.
Dustin Ruge: Transforming the Legal Landscape Through Strategy, Value, and AI
Q: How do you see sales has changed and then how lawyers need to be thinking about business development?
Sales in the legal space is moving towards articulating value instead of simply selling time. Lawyers need to focus on understanding clients' needs and building trust through effective communication.
Susan Filan: Finding Joy and Peace in a High-Pressure Career
Q: What would your future self thank you for if you made a change today?
It's instantly obvious what changes you'd make when faced with mortality.
Susan Filan: Finding Joy and Peace in a High-Pressure Career
Q: How do they get off that wheel?
The first question is to ask where you are out of integrity with yourself.

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Recent guests on BE THAT LAWYER include:

1. Susan Filan
2. Dustin Ruge
3. Pam Meissner
4. Adam Williams
5. Ben Dach
6. Walt Hampton
7. Brian Haugh
8. Dr. Rachel Boehm

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