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Clever with Amy Devers

Amy Devers
Design
Creativity
New York University
Performance Arts
Grief
Coil & Drift
Lighting Design
Hip Hop
Salone Satellite
Architecture
Mental Health
Catskill Mountains
Hand Lettering
Graffiti Art
Malene Barnett
Hip Hop Architecture Camp
ADHD
Business Growth
Milan Furniture Fair
Freelancing

Clever is an award-winning, independent podcast that offers a window into the humanity behind the design of the world around us.

In each episode, designer Amy Devers has candid and revealing conversations with the visionaries, culture-makers, and creative forces who shape our world and inform our society. Through a disarming mix of raw candor and honest shop-talk, Clever peels back the layers to u... more

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Latest Episodes

Designer Liz Ogbu grew up in Oakland as the daughter of Nigerian immigrants, but it wasn’t until her first trip to Nigeria at 16 that she grasped the profound role place, family, and cultural context play in shaping who we are—and what we create. Dra... more

If you caught last week’s interview with Stephanie Tinsley, you heard a compelling, second chapter creative journey in which she summons her inner strengths and plunges herself into the world of investigative podcasting. 

This week, we’re presenting... more

When her life collided with a high-profile murder trial, longtime true-crime devotee Stephanie Tinsley found an unexpected path into creative agency and advocacy. After a career in sales and private equity, everything shifted when her husband, attorn... more

Molly Heintz grew up fascinated with Greek mythology, and eventually, fashion – drawn to enthralling storytelling and visual aesthetics. She carried this interest in Greek mythology over to studying archeology but when she became burned out in academ... more

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Recent Guests

Liz Ogbu
Designer, spatial justice activist, and community grief worker
Founder of Studio O
Episode: Ep. 232: Studio O’s Liz Ogbu on Spatial Justice and the Role of Design in Healing Grief
Stephanie Tinsley
Host of Everything They Missed and an investigative podcaster
Everything They Missed
Episode: Clever Presents: Everything They Missed
Molly Heintz
A writer and editor specializing in architecture and design, chair of the Master of Arts in Design Research, Writing, and Criticism at SVA.
School of Visual Arts
Episode: Ep. 230: SVA’s Molly Heintz on Why Design Writing Matters
Virginia B. Johnson
Costume designer and creative entrepreneur known for her culturally authentic costume designs.
Netflix's American Primeval
Episode: Ep. 229: Costume Designer Virginia B. Johnson Deploys Deep Craft and Rigorous Cultural Authenticity for Powerful Storytelling
Julia Watson
Designer, consultant, award-winning educator, and best-selling author focused on climate-resilient design through indigenous knowledge systems.
Lo-TEK Institute
Episode: Ep. 228: Lo-TEK’s Julia Watson on Applying Indigenous Knowledge to Climate-Adaptive Design
Aaron Draplin
Graphic designer known for his logo design and branding work, founder of Draplin Design Company, and creator of Field Notes notebooks.
Draplin Design Company
Episode: Ep. 74: Aaron Draplin [encore]
Cas Holman
An acclaimed designer for play, educator, and author of the upcoming book Playful.
Episode: Ep. 227: Designer Cas Holman is Giving Us All Permission to Play
Suchi Reddy
Architect, designer, artist, and leader in neuroesthetics.
Reddymade
Episode: Ep. 226: Neuroaesthetics Pioneer Suchi Reddy on How Form Follows Feeling
Norman Teague
A Chicago-based designer, educator, and founder of Norman Teague Design Studio specializing in cultural storytelling through design.
Norman Teague Design Studio
Episode: Ep. 225: Norman Teague on Cultural Storytelling Through Design

Host

Amy Devers
Host of Clever, engaging listeners with insightful and candid conversations with industry leaders and creatives in design. Known for her thoughtful approach to interviewing, she discovers the personal stories that shape her guests' creative journeys.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 721 ratings
  • Nourishing

    My curiosity and creativity feel energized after listening.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    The Actual Skinny Pete
    United States7 months ago
  • Enriching

    In the latest episode Amy summed up her conversation with Lionel Ohayon as enriching and I realised that’s how I feel about every episode of this podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Make, Do & Send
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Inspiring

    As a young architect this podcast has inspired me and guided me while I started my journey in the field. Amy asks amazing questions that help understand the meaning behind the design.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    L’arch
    Canada2 years ago
  • Amazingly amazing

    Clever is the only podcast I listen to. I am a graphic designer/art director and listening to all these people make feel less wired. I learn a lot and enjoy it tremendously. Thank you Amy Devers for the great show!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lia.moudi
    United States2 years ago
  • 💜

    Great podcast, but there are way too many commercials.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    pezz26
    United States3 years ago

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Listeners appreciate the authentic and inspirational narratives shared by the host and guests, often mentioning how energized they feel after tuning in.
Some comments highlight overwhelming commercial breaks and question the host's giggling, which distracts from the content.
The podcast is praised for its insightful questions that reveal the personal motivations and backgrounds of creative professionals.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

Apple Podcasts
#71
United States/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#144
Canada/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#178
United Kingdom/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#53
Italy/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#165
France/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#8
Chile/Arts/Design

Talking Points

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Ep. 229: Costume Designer Virginia B. Johnson Deploys Deep Craft and Rigorous Cultural Authenticity for Powerful Storytelling
Q: Can you tell me some specific examples from American Primeval of how you interpreted this information?
Virginia discusses the main character's costume, explaining how it reflects her need to not stand out while traveling alone with her son, portraying resilience and practicality.
Ep. 228: Lo-TEK’s Julia Watson on Applying Indigenous Knowledge to Climate-Adaptive Design
Q: What types of clients are you serving at the office?
I work with international governments, private corporations, and organizations looking to transition from extractive to sustainable practices.
Ep. 228: Lo-TEK’s Julia Watson on Applying Indigenous Knowledge to Climate-Adaptive Design
Q: In your words, what is Lo-TEK and why is it important?
Lo-TEK represents local Traditional Ecological Knowledge and encompasses the application of ancient knowledge to contemporary challenges, emphasizing the importance of indigenous technologies.
Ep. 227: Designer Cas Holman is Giving Us All Permission to Play
Q: What does adult play really look like?
Adult play can be difficult to define; it encompasses activities that aren't necessarily outcome-oriented, allowing for exploration and curiosity without pressure for productivity.
Ep. 122: Design Advocate Jessie McGuire [encore]
Q: How do you measure impact?
Impact can be gauged by increased engagement from organizations and creative individuals toward the Constitution and civic participation.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Clever

What is Clever about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The content revolves around the humanity embedded in design, offering listeners deep insights into the lives of influential designers, architects, and creatives who shape our physical and cultural environments. Conversations typically blend personal narratives with professional experiences, revealing the unique journeys of various guests across disciplines from architecture and graphic design to costume creation and design writing. A significant focus is placed on themes like cultural authenticity, community engagement, and the intersection of design with social justice, all delivered through candid dialogues that make the complexities of design accessible and relatable to a broad audience. With its engaging interviews and emphasis on story... more

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Recent guests on Clever include:

1. Liz Ogbu
2. Stephanie Tinsley
3. Molly Heintz
4. Virginia B. Johnson
5. Julia Watson
6. Aaron Draplin
7. Cas Holman
8. Suchi Reddy

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