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Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins

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Electric Vehicles
Tesla
Climate Change
Renewable Energy
Inflation Reduction Act
Energy Transition
Carbon Emissions
EPA Power Plant Rules
EV Market
Supercharger Network
Energy Policy
Rooftop Solar
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law
Charging Infrastructure
Elon Musk
Wind Energy
Clean Energy Manufacturing
Liquefied Natural Gas
Clean Energy
U.s.-China Economic Relations

Every week, Heatmap News Executive Editor Robinson Meyer and Princeton University Professor and energy systems expert Jesse Jenkins make sense of the biggest shift of our time -- navigating the energy transition away from fossil fuels. Drawing on their years of experience reporting on and researching climate change and decarbonization, Meyer and Jenkins unpack the most important issues of the week... more

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President Trump announced on Monday that the U.S. would create a domestic stockpile of critical minerals for civilian use — essentially a Strategic Petroleum Reserve, but for lithium, copper, rare earths, and other rocks central to electronics and de... more

It’s been a huge few weeks for the electric vehicle industry — at least in North America.

After a major trade deal, Canada is set to import tens of thousands of new electric vehicles from China every year, and it could soon invite a Chinese automake... more

America’s estimated greenhouse gas emissions rose by 2.4% last year — which is a big deal since they had been steady or falling in 2023 and 2024. More ominously, U.S. emissions grew faster than our gross domestic product last year, suggesting that th... more

Every year, Heatmap asks dozens of climate scientists, officials, and business leaders the same set of questions. It’s an act of temperature-taking we call our Insiders Survey — and our 2026 edition is live now.

In this week’s Shift Key episode, Rob... more

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Recent Guests

Greig Mordue
Professor of engineering and public policy at McMaster University, former executive with Toyota's Canadian manufacturing operation
McMaster University
Episode: What the China-Canada EV Trade Deal Really Means
Andrew Moseman
Heatmap contributor and observer of the electric vehicle market
Heatmap News
Episode: What the China-Canada EV Trade Deal Really Means
Ben King
Director of the Climate and Energy Practice at the Rhodium Group
Rhodium Group
Episode: Why America’s Climate Emissions Surged in 2025
Jesse Jenkins
Professor of Energy Systems Engineering at Princeton University
Princeton University
Episode: Heatmap’s Annual Climate Insiders Survey Is Here
Nicolás Maduro
Former President of Venezuela
Episode: Why Trump’s Oil Imperialism Might Be a Tough Sell for Actual Oil Companies
Mark Fitzgerald
President and CEO of Eavor Technologies with 35 years of experience in the energy sector
Eavor Technologies
Episode: Say ‘Guten Tag!’ to This New Kind of Geothermal Tech
Ilaria Mazzocco
Deputy Director and Senior Fellow with the Trustee Chair in Chinese Business and Economic Studies
Center for the Strategic and International Studies
Episode: Why the Rest of the World Is Buying Chinese EVs
Daniel Stein
Founder and Executive Director of Giving Green
Giving Green
Episode: How to Make Your Climate Giving Count, According to an Expert
Advait Arun
Senior Associate for Capital Markets at the Center for Public Enterprise
Center for Public Enterprise
Episode: How Clean Energy Could Prepare for an AI Bubble

Hosts

Robinson Meyer
Founding Executive Editor of Heatmap News, specializing in climate journalism and energy policy analysis.
Jesse Jenkins
Professor of Energy Systems Engineering at Princeton University, focusing on sustainable energy technologies and policy.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 267 ratings
  • Useful insight into power markets

    I’m starting out as a state government lawyer in public utility law with a focus on electricity, and the recent episodes and summer school episodes have been a useful entry point into the worlds of energy science, policy, and markets.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JHPAOCA
    United States6 months ago
  • Educational and interesting

    Great episode on electricity markets. Especially the commentary on gamifying real time pricing.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    unsatisfied customer #99
    United States6 months ago
  • Educational and Entertaining

    Robinson and Jesse do an excellent job of both keeping me informed about climate change topics while they also entertain with an enjoyable, candid conversation.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    katycryts
    United States7 months ago
  • Spiritual?

    Environmentalist are actually “concrete” observers. They see habitat loss and point it out. When very few others are able to recognize it, they may have words of condemnation, but they are seeing the forest, not just the trees.

    You don’t have to belittle people who care about life more than you, and for longer than you, to make your point.

    Are you saying Rachel Carson was too spiritual in pointing out the scientific effects of DDT?

    Truth is, human animals don’t want to burn calories physically... more

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    WilderLead
    United States8 months ago
  • A serious, detailed, and engaging podcast

    If you are interested/concerned about environmental challenges and how they fit into American/global society, this is the podcast for you. The hosts go into detail on techno/economic factors for the climate transition and how it relates to us as consumers. The episodes are engaging and serious, a rarity in today’s « attention at any cost, even the truth » media environment. Thanks guys for a great podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    PhillyMattR
    United Statesa year ago

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What the China-Canada EV Trade Deal Really Means
Q: Are we likely to see brands like BYD or Xiaomi on Canadian roads soon?
Not soon; regulations and compliance challenges may delay their entry into the market.
Heatmap’s Annual Climate Insiders Survey Is Here
Q: What, if any, lesson did you take from the dramatic scale back of clean energy tax credits in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act?
That rational self-interest can be outweighed by party leader control over votes.
Heatmap’s Annual Climate Insiders Survey Is Here
Q: Will a major permitting reform law on par with what Senators John Barrasso and Joe Manchin proposed in 2024 pass in this Congress?
No, there will be opposition from both sides, making it hard to move forward.
Heatmap’s Annual Climate Insiders Survey Is Here
Q: Do you think AI and data centers' energy needs are significantly slowing down decarbonization?
Significantly, yes, due to the rapid growth in electricity demand from data centers.
Heatmap’s Annual Climate Insiders Survey Is Here
Q: In your opinion, what key decarbonization technology is furthest from being ready for primetime?
Industrial decarbonization options and particularly those needing chemical reductants are furthest from being ready.

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What is Shift Key about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This podcast focuses on the pivotal transition from fossil fuels to sustainable energy solutions, featuring in-depth discussions on contemporary climate challenges and the evolving political landscape surrounding energy policy. The hosts leverage their respective expertise in journalism and academia to explore significant topics such as climate philanthropy, clean energy initiatives, electrical infrastructure, and the socio-economic implications of climate actions. Unique features of the content include not only rigorous analysis but also real-world implications for listeners, addressing how changes in energy production and consumption are reshaping various sectors and impacting everyday life.

With a blend of expert interviews and insightf... more

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4. Jesse Jenkins
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