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Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche
Nutrition
Strength Training
2024
Protein Science
Cross-Training
Sleep Study
Wearable Technology
Zone Training
Olympic Trials
Endurance Training
Running
UTMB
Ultra Running
Mcdowell Mountain 50-Miler
Nutrition Science
Black Canyon 100K
Endurance Sports
Bone Density
Post-Exercise Ketones
Shoe Brands

Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!

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Tara Dower
Ultra athlete who set the overall FKT record on the Appalachian Trail
Episode: 225. Kilian's Wild Physiology Data, Tara Dower Sets the Overall AT Record, The Next Race After Leadville, 7 Ultra Logistics Tips, and How Elite Athletes Eat!
Allie Ostrander
Endurance athlete and YouTuber, known for her vulnerability in sharing her journey with eating disorders and competitive racing.
Episode: 190. Optimizing Testosterone Levels, Lower Mileage Training, Breathing and Stress, and US Cross Country!

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Megan Roche
Co-host and physician sharing insights on her running, training, and experiences as an athlete and parent.
David Roche
Co-host and coach providing insights on running strategies and personal experiences in sports and parenting.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 5.3k ratings
  • SWAP is life, love and science

    David and Megan are the best, and have such great chemistry on the mic. Love listening to them every week for science pearls and lots of laughter as they honestly and vulnerably talk about life and running.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    TLBIII
    United Statesa month ago
  • Great show.

    Always relevant and scientific.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Bkatfit
    United Statesa month ago
  • Best Trail Running Advice Podcast

    I’ve been following SWAP for years, I am a happy Patreon subscriber also, it’s worth every penny. David Roche is my defacto $5/month coach, I get all the training plans from him, from the 100 milers down to 1/2 Marathon. No guesswork. Full of tips to make me faster and more durable, at 57. The advice is based on science with the comfort of the real superstar Dr Megan Roche elaborating on the takeaways. I’ve never DNF’d a race thanks to SWAP, and I am hopeful to run Western States sometime in my ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sal Bous
    United States2 months ago
  • So much love 🫶🥔

    “Arf Arf!” I’ve been looking to a way to get back to running weekly on top of cycling and strength training and David&Megan’s vibes have worked their magic! Also, their Patreon account and YouTube channel deliver so much knowledge and love for the sport and all participants!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Flynnryder01
    Italy3 months ago
  • 20% is great.

    Sadly, the podcast has become all about monetizing itself to the point I no longer trust the recommendations that are giving. Listened since the first podcast but the nuggets of actual useful running information are not worth being shilled to nonstop.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    redjay66
    Canada3 months ago

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Listeners praise the mix of science and humor, highlighting the hosts' positive energy and authentic approach.
Overall, the engagement is highly favorable, with many stating it to be their favorite source of running-related media.
Some suggest a slower speaking pace for easier comprehension, but this is balanced by numerous positive testimonials about the show's content.
Many appreciate the insightful discussions on running science and nutrition, underscoring how it impacts their personal training journeys.
Feedback often mentions the relatability of their parenting experiences intertwined with sports advice.

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#13
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294. The Bicarb Revolution, Theory of Doubles, Vitamin D Supplementation, Stairmill Training, and Zone 2 Weirdness!
Q: What are the benefits and downsides of running a training plan but splitting up workouts into two a day or even three?
Doubles can be beneficial for professional athletes to reduce glycogen demand and improve recovery, but for busy lifestyles, it may lead to burnout rather than benefits.
294. The Bicarb Revolution, Theory of Doubles, Vitamin D Supplementation, Stairmill Training, and Zone 2 Weirdness!
Q: Does biking have to hurt? Any tips?
Biking is hard, especially at higher intensities, but it can be more comfortable with proper form and incorporating breaks out of the saddle. Think of biking in Z2 as beneficial and consider the muscular tension involved.
244. Why Pressure is Good, The Strange Science of Downhills, Plus Q+A on Ketones, Strides, Weekly Mileage, Anxiety, Going All-In, and More!
Q: Should I aim to increase power only and keep cadence the same as my easy runs, like 180, or increase cadence?
You can aim for both power and cadence increases during strides. The key is to find what allows you to run fastest while maintaining running form, even if that means your cadence occasionally exceeds 180.
244. Why Pressure is Good, The Strange Science of Downhills, Plus Q+A on Ketones, Strides, Weekly Mileage, Anxiety, Going All-In, and More!
Q: Can strides ever be done on the trail? If it's not technical, of course, do you ever do that?
Yes, strides can be done on the trail, especially on flatter and smoother terrain. They're more effective there as they optimize both power and speed. For hill strides, you can have fun with that even on a trail with some rocks, as they are less about optimal speed and more about practice and adaptability.
244. Why Pressure is Good, The Strange Science of Downhills, Plus Q+A on Ketones, Strides, Weekly Mileage, Anxiety, Going All-In, and More!
Q: How do you balance heat training like sauna and hot tub with athletes that are trying to conceive?
It's important to consider that intense heat training can reduce sperm quality, so moderation is key. You may want to avoid sauna use temporarily while trying to conceive. Additionally, the retention of sauna benefits should be weighed against any potential fertility impacts. Many athletes find success without intensive heat training during this journey.

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The hosted discussions focus on a wide variety of topics revolving around running, sports science, and personal journeys. Common themes include training techniques, nutritional strategies, mental resilience, and the intricacies of postpartum recovery, particularly from the perspectives of elite athletes. Conversations also delve into running-related studies, race reviews, and light-hearted banter that emphasizes personal experiences, making the content engaging and relatable for listeners. This dynamic creates a supportive environment where both the hosts and the audience share a common love for endurance sports.

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