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The Hidden Third

Mariana van Zeller
Jeffrey Epstein
Sexual Abuse
Trauma Recovery
Prison Reform
Capitol Hill
Modeling Industry
Women Empowerment
Cocaine Trafficking
Grooming
Substance Abuse
Securities Fraud
USC
Lessons From Prison
Black Markets
Economy
Addict2athlete
Criminal Justice Reform
Anna Sorokin
Drug Trafficking
Society

From Emmy and Peabody Award–winning journalist Mariana van Zeller comes THE HIDDEN THIRD, a weekly dive into the underground markets that quietly power a third of the global economy. Every episode Mariana sits down with people who know these worlds firsthand - the hustlers, smugglers, scammers, kingpins, and those trying to shut them down. The series reveals how they function, why they endure, and... more

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In this episode of The Hidden Third, Mariana sits down with Arman, an underground hacker involved in the infamous Xbox Underground case -- an alleged conspiracy federal investigators said targeted Microsoft and its partners and was valued by the FBI ... more

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This week on The Hidden Third, I sit down with Owen Hanson, known as “O-Dog” — a former USC athlete whose hunger to win at all costs spiraled into a criminal operation spanning sports betting, drug trafficking, and money laundering.

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This week on The Hidden Third, I speak to Anna Sorokin, better known as “Anna Delvey”, the infamous “fake heiress” whose real-life story was later dramatized in Netflix’s... more

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Recent Guests

Owen Hanson
Former USC athlete turned cocaine kingpin and gambling consultant
Episode: USC Athlete Turned Cocaine Kingpin | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller
Robert Archuleta
Ph.D. in human behavior, addiction counselor, and Ironman triathlete
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Episode: From Addict to Ironman | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller

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Mariana van Zeller
Emmy and Peabody Award-winning journalist who hosts the series, known for her investigative work covering underground markets and social issues.

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4.6 out of 5 stars from 341 ratings
  • Best new podcast of the year

    I feel like everyone should listen to this podcast and absorb some of the information and perspectives that is being shared

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    beede 32
    United Statesa month ago
  • Incredible

    I’ve been watching her documentary series Traffic on Hulu . She’s amazing, she can make it seem like she’s an old friend to the people she’s interviewing. And these people are some of the most dangerous .

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pray 4 Plagues
    United Statesa month ago
  • Riveting but

    It would be incredibly helpful if the host stopped INTERRUPTING her guests.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    esveesea
    Canadaa month ago
  • Obsessed!!!!

    She is amazing! How she talks to all these people and somehow gets them to spill their secrets and tell their stories. Been obsessed with Mariana for years and now even more. Randomly met her for about 30 seconds at the airport about a week ago and she is the real deal. Warm, genuine, and exactly who hope she would be.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DocNessMonster
    United Statesa month ago
  • Russian Spy Scam

    Only listened to one episode thus far. Good reporting, but the woman interviewed about being a Russian spy is a total fraud. I have been profiled as a Russian spy over half my life, and she did not divulge anything that wasn’t already mass reported on or a plot in movies. Very blasé, generic, fake. I could come up with the plot lines when I was ten years old. One star because she’s an integrity risk but 5 star because the interviewer is good, overall 3.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Havelanche
    United States2 months ago

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Xbox Underground Hacker | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller
Q: What was that like for you?
Very, very interesting; I had the balance of between a low income and a high income family.
USC Athlete Turned Cocaine Kingpin | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller
Q: How did he take it when he realized that you were trafficking drugs?
He was disappointed, but he looked at me and he says, we got to get you out of this prison, and we got to figure out what you're going to do next with your life.
USC Athlete Turned Cocaine Kingpin | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller
Q: What do you want the message to be? What's the inspiration that you want your story to be for people?
Don't go down that path of illegal activity. I want you to go across one time, even if it's just a small amount. Once I got involved with that, you're chasing that forever, and the rush is never enough.
USC Athlete Turned Cocaine Kingpin | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller
Q: What would you have done differently?
I would have stuck with the gambling. Once I crossed that line and worked for Earl Heffey and started distributing illegal drugs at the ton level, that's where I should have stopped.
Jeffrey Epstein Survivor | The Hidden Third with Mariana van Zeller
Q: How did Jeffrey respond when you knew too much?
He mentioned that he liked to have things on people and implied he had a lot of control, and I felt that shift in our dynamic.

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What is The Hidden Third about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Exploring the complexities of underground markets, this series provides an in-depth look at the individuals involved in illicit activities that significantly influence the global economy. Each episode features captivating narratives from those involved in the shadowy worlds of crime, including smugglers, traffickers, and reform advocates, while addressing broader societal issues such as addiction, prison reform, and healthcare fraud. The discussions shed light on personal transformation stories, systemic failures, and the critical need for reform in various societal sectors impacted by these hidden economies. This unique podcast offers listeners an engaging mix of true crime and socio-economic analyses, appealing to those interested in unde... more

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