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The Messy City Podcast

Kevin Klinkenberg
Urban Development
Urban Planning
Kansas City
Local Businesses
Tupac Shakur
Akron, Ohio
Housing Affordability
Public Transportation
Urban Design
Community Engagement
Commercial Real Estate
Inflation
Public Safety
Cleveland, Ohio
Strong Towns
New Urbanism
Kansas City Streetcar
Community Development
Real Estate Development
Kansas City Royals

Embracing change, uncertainty and local initiative for our cities and towns kevinklinkenberg.substack.com

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One of the mantras of small or incremental development workshops for years has been, “no one is coming to save you.” The solution to your neighborhood’s or community’s problem isn’t some outside force. It’s you.

A similar mantra has been, “Brooklyn... more

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One of the most shocking pieces of information I’ve seen in the last year is how high the average age of all homebuyers has become. Depending on the source, I’ve seen between 59 and 62 years old. This is the *average* age.

We’ve never seen a housin... more

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About forty years ago, the New Urbanism came on the scene with bold and creative ideas for building entirely new towns. The founders of the movement intended to prove that we could really build beautiful, walkable new places in America, much like som... more

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Andrew Burleson asks us to think about, “what is the system that creates space for people to live?” Systems thinking may seem terribly wonky, and in reality, it is. But systems thinking gave us the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and a whole host... more

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Recent Guests

Gabriel Metcalf
Head of planning for California Forever, with experience in housing, transportation, and urban policy.
California Forever
Episode: Can California Forever begin to cure the state's housing woes?
Andrew Burleson
Co-founder and board chair of Strong Towns
Strong Towns
Episode: How to Unleash the Swarm
Dan Parolek
Architect and urban designer, co-founder of Opticos Design, with extensive experience in new urbanism and direct collaboration with Leon Krier.
Opticos Design
Episode: Reflecting on Leon Krier
Chuck Marohn
Founder of Strong Towns, a nonprofit focused on improving urban development and financial viability of cities
Strong Towns
Episode: Reframing the Housing Discussion
Nolan Gray
Author of Arbitrary Lines and urban planning expert
Episode: A Conversation with Nolan Gray
Ward Davis
Real estate developer focused on town centers and new urbanism
High Street Real Estate Development
Episode: Development is Harder Than You Think
Kevin Klinkenberg
Architect, urban planner and author of the Messy City publication
Midtown Casey Now
Episode: Discussing Messy Cities on the Challenger Cities Podcast
John Zeanah
Chief of Development and Infrastructure for the city of Memphis
City of Memphis
Episode: Pay Attention to What is Happening in Memphis
Jaime Izurieta
Local economic development expert specializing in storefront design and business coaching
Storefront Mastery
Episode: The Past and Future of Retailing

Host

Kevin Klinkenberg
Host and urban planner known for his focus on urban development, community engagement, and sustainable practices.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 54 ratings
  • A great listen even for non-experts like me

    I’m a dilettante urbanist, and this podcast is one of my favorites for hearing experts break down how to improve our cities in tangible ways. Kevin does a great job of keeping the conversations informative yet still accessible for non-technical folks like me.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    the stellion
    United Statesa year ago
  • Econ Dev

    This is my favourite economic development podcast hands down, even ahead of the Strong Towns podcasts. The exploration to incremental development and small developers is super useful information even for small towns. Very insightful and useful conversations. I recommend this to anyone in Econ dev, town/city administration, councils, etc.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Frontball
    Canadaa year ago
  • Great information

    Enjoying listening to what others are doing around the country. Inspiring interviews and discussions.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lake Dallas Tiny Home Village
    United Statesa year ago
  • Must-listen for the KC urbanist

    If you’re interested in urban development (especially small-scale and incremental) in midsize American cities, this is required listening. Cities like Kansas City have so much potential, and hearing nitty-gritty stories of how people are making change is really beautiful and inspiring.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    FeralJosh
    United States3 years ago

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The content is accessible and beneficial for both professionals and casual listeners interested in urban issues.
Listeners appreciate the enlightening discussions and practical insights regarding urban planning and community engagement.
There is a strong emphasis on actionable change, resonating well with those who value local initiatives and sustainable practices.

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#23
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#113
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#120
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#100
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#134
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#182
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Unpopular Ideas to Fix the Housing Market
Q: How do you see demographic changes impacting the housing market?
The generational wealth gap and the aging boomer population will lead to complex dynamics ahead, particularly as wealth transitions to their heirs.
Unpopular Ideas to Fix the Housing Market
Q: How do you see the challenges with the ideas of lowering mortgage rates and implementing 50-year mortgages?
While reducing monthly payments could seem beneficial, increasing demand artificially will ultimately drive prices up further.
How to Unleash the Swarm
Q: What is the problem you're trying to diagnose and solve before we get into the meat of what an adaptive code is?
Most cities' zoning code says what you can build, and what it says is you can build exactly the same thing that's there now.
How to Unleash the Swarm
Q: So Andrew, who are you?
I am a co-founder and the board chair of Strong Towns.
From Small Developer to Mayor
Q: What projects did you immediately start working on after the hurricane?
We started buying properties immediately as people were looking to sell after the losses from the hurricane.

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Exploring the intersection of urban development and community engagement, content is characterized by discussions around innovative approaches to tackling common urban challenges such as housing crises, zoning regulations, and the impact of contemporary urban planning practices. Guests often include experts and advocates from various sectors including urban planning, architecture, and real estate, which enriches conversations with diverse viewpoints on how to create more sustainable and vibrant cities for a growing population. The emphasis on local initiatives and the human element in urbanism is particularly noteworthy, aiming to foster a sense of community ownership and involvement in urban policies.

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1. Gabriel Metcalf
2. Andrew Burleson
3. Dan Parolek
4. Chuck Marohn
5. Nolan Gray
6. Ward Davis
7. Kevin Klinkenberg
8. John Zeanah

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