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The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland

The Money Trench
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UK Music
Daniel Glass
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UK Music Industry
Glastonbury Festival
Streaming Services
AI Lawsuits
Glastonbury
Universal Music UK
Physical Music Sales
Streaming Revenues
Fair Pay For Songwriters
Motherhood In Music
Tiktok
Amy Winehouse
Music Industry
BBC Radio 2
Music Industry Diversity
Dynamic Pricing

The Money Trench (TMT) is The Music Industry Podcast from presenter Mark Sutherland and exec producer Mike Walsh, produced by Tape Notes and supported by PPL. Each Monday, we will dissect the biggest music industry news stories of the previous week, in the company of one of the industry’s most influential executives. Followed by a deep dive into that exec’s career in music, including their thought... more

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Merry Christmas from The Money Trench! This week, we’re bringing you a very special compilation episode! Sit back, relax, and enjoy some of the key moments from our 2025 episodes. Mark will guide you through the hottest industry talking points from t... more

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Zena White, COO of Partisan Records and Chair of WIN.

From working her way up through live music, management, and label services, Zena is now COO of one of the world's most successful indie l... more

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Paul Lennon, one of the UK’s top music lawyers and consultant at Moore SGD Law.

From working as in-house lawyer at labels, to becoming the go-to lawyer during the 90s Britpop era, Paul has be... more

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Alexi Cory-Smith, lawyer, publishing/label executive, and now CEO and founder of Bella Figura.

Alexi is one of the most respected figures in the rights and legal world, and now she’s building... more

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Recent Guests

Zena White
Chief Operating Officer of Partisan Records, Women in Music International Woman of the Year winner.
Partisan Records
Episode: TMT:72 Zena White On Building The World’s Coolest Indie Label
Paul Lennon
A top music industry lawyer with 35 years of experience.
Moore SGD Law
Episode: TMT:71 Paul Lennon On Negotiating The Music Industry’s Big Deals
Alexi Cory-Smith
Founder and CEO of Bella Figura, an investment and management company focusing on music catalogs.
Bella Figura
Episode: TMT:70 Alexi Cory-Smith On The Catalogue Sales Boom
Cam Blackwood
Scottish producer and songwriter, co-founder of Rezonate Music Rights
Rezonate Music Rights
Episode: TMT:69 Cam Blackwood Live On The Catalogue Sales Revolution
Craig Logan
Music entrepreneur, manager of artists including Pink and Dido
Logan Media Entertainment
Episode: TMT:68 Craig Logan On Being a Music Entrepreneur
Nadia Khan
Prominent campaigner and artist manager, founder of Women in CTRL.
CTRL Music, Women in CTRL
Episode: TMT:67 Nadia Khan On Powering Change In The Music Industry
Tim Burgess
Lead singer of The Charlatans with a successful solo career
The Charlatans
Episode: TMT:66 The Charlatans Frontman Tim Burgess On Being A Musicians’ Champion
Rich Castillo
President of LionBear Music Group
LionBear Music Group
Episode: TMT:64 Rich Castillo On Indie Labels’ Big A&R Opportunity
Fraser T. Smith
Renowned producer and songwriter, known for his work with Adele and contribution to the grime movement.
Episode: TMT:63 Fraser T. Smith On Producing Adele & Keeping Music Human

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Mark Sutherland
Host of the show, facilitating engaging conversations with industry leaders and creatives.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 99 ratings
  • Brilliant

    Hi Mike, hi Mark - forgot all the months to write- I’m in from beginning on and listened to almost every episode. Really enjoying it! Great mix of guests and so much good inside and Entertianment . Keep it coming- all the best from Berlin - Tessy Schulz

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Susanne/Berlin
    Germany3 months ago
  • A blast!

    So informative and entertaining

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Scarlett Rhett
    United Kingdom7 months ago
  • Brilliant

    Loving the pod. Learning so much about the music biz. You are so brat!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Veronicaplath13
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • Great insight into the industry!

    Loving the guests so far, some brilliant stories and I already feel like I’ve learned a lot. Keep it up!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Brimmey
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • Great listen

    Working in broadcasting I have always had a strong interest in the music business. This podcast was ideal for this interest.

    It’s got fantastic info and a high level of content expertise but it delivered in an way that understand and enjoyable.

    The interview with Lorna Clarke was excellent. She’s been a trailblazer at the bbc and responsible for so many of its ‘good bits’ so getting her thoughts is a real insight.

    Looking forward to hearing more from this podcast and seeing how it all develo... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    stubar123
    United Kingdoma year ago

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TMT:72 Zena White On Building The World’s Coolest Indie Label
Q: How worried are you about AI?
I'm naturally optimistic, but the pace at which AI is developing is terrifying, especially given the human touch in music.
TMT:72 Zena White On Building The World’s Coolest Indie Label
Q: Do you think indie labels are sort of undervalued in some way?
I don't think they are undervalued, I think it's just noisy and maybe misunderstood sometimes.
TMT:72 Zena White On Building The World’s Coolest Indie Label
Q: How do you see British music in the Partisan context?
We don't really differentiate where it's coming from when we're listening or wanting to work with an artist.
TMT:64 Rich Castillo On Indie Labels’ Big A&R Opportunity
Q: What are the current challenges for UK artists breaking into the global market?
Rich believes that while UK artists are incredibly talented, they need more time for development and effective strategies to compete with the dominant US market.
TMT:64 Rich Castillo On Indie Labels’ Big A&R Opportunity
Q: How do you feel about AI in the music industry?
Rich Castillo sees AI as a necessary part of the future of the industry but believes it needs to be controlled and legislated to protect creativity.

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Focusing on the dynamic landscape of the music industry, a wide range of episodes feature discussions with influential executives, artists, and experts, offering unique insights into current trends, legal issues, marketing strategies, and the impact of technology on music, particularly the roles of streaming services and generative AI. The conversations frequently highlight the challenges and innovations surrounding artist development, the significance of independent labels, and the evolving nature of music distribution and consumption. Noteworthy are the personal anecdotes shared by guests that enrich understanding of the industry's inner workings, alongside the host's ability to connect with diverse voices in the music scene.

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Recent guests on The Money Trench include:

1. Zena White
2. Paul Lennon
3. Alexi Cory-Smith
4. Cam Blackwood
5. Craig Logan
6. Nadia Khan
7. Tim Burgess
8. Rich Castillo

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