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True Believer: The Unsolved Murder of Elizabeth Mackintosh

TJ Ingrassia & Ruth Serven Smith
Elizabeth Mackintosh
Covenant Theological Seminary
David Winecoff
Murder Investigation
Covenant Seminary
PCA
Domestic Violence
Michael D***
Sexual Misconduct
Creve Coeur
Michael
Legal Liability
Ryan Davidson
Grace and Peace Church
Political Science
Systematic Theology
Colorado
Garden Of Lament and Hope
Providence Reformed Church
Knox Theological Seminary

Early on the morning of March 26, 1990, Elizabeth Mackintosh was murdered on the campus of Covenant Theological Seminary in Creve Coeur, Missouri. To date it's the only unsolved murder in the city’s history. True Believer examines the circumstances surrounding Elizabeth's murder and speaks to the people affected by it as they, and the men suspected in her death, search for answers.

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On March 26, 2025, the 35th anniversary of Elizabeth's murder, Covenant Seminary held a "Service of Lament" and dedicated a new "Garden of Lament and Hope" on the campus grounds. TJ and Ruth discuss the service (which TJ attended) and how Covenant ch... more

The main True Believer project is finished, at least until there are any updates on the Elizabeth Mackintosh murder investigation. But we do want to return with a postscript that addresses a different question: What happened to other people who were ... more

The family of David Winecoff recently reached out to “True Believer” with concerns about recent episodes. After reviewing their concerns, we have made several updates to Episodes 13 and 14. Ultimately, however, we stand by our work and our decision t... more

In this final episode of the series, Ruth and TJ sit down with PCA pastors Doug Serven and Kyle Hackmann to discuss what they all learned from working on this series, and to answer some of the comments and critiques that listeners (and those that hav... more

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Recent Guests

Mike Milton
Organizing pastor for Redeemer Presbyterian Church.
Redeemer Presbyterian Church
Episode: Ep 13: A Skilled Man
Norm Reed
Former member of Providence Church and the last person to see David Winecoff alive.
Episode: Ep 13: A Skilled Man
Chris Baker
Friend of Elizabeth’s and former student at Covenant Seminary.
Episode: Ep 13: A Skilled Man
Jack Davidson
Former student at Covenant who interacted with David Winecoff.
Episode: Ep 13: A Skilled Man
Diane Preston
Former classmate of David Winecoff.
Episode: Ep 13: A Skilled Man
Sandra Fullerton
Former student at Covenant Theological Seminary and engaging speaker on the impact of Elizabeth Mackintosh's murder.
Episode: Bonus Content: Sandra Interview
Kirsten Moorhead
Artist and daughter of prime suspect Michael D***
Episode: Ep 10: The Forgotten Children
Karl St. Lucie
Brother of Kirsten and son of prime suspect Michael D***
Episode: Ep 10: The Forgotten Children

Host

Ruth Cervin-Smith
Co-host, co-producer, and researcher with deep commitment to exploring the complexities in the narrative surrounding Elizabeth's murder.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 385 ratings
  • Case Reporting was well done, Commentary was often unfair

    I was a student at Covenant Seminary from 2014 - 2017, and heard about the murder through a co-worker while I was there. However, I never knew the details and so this podcast was really helpful to learn more. The hosts seemed to be pretty honest and fair with their reporting, even correcting themselves at times, which I appreciated. However in their commentaries I often felt they were a bit unfair in their judgments toward the Seminary and the hosts often seemed to have a personal axe to grind a... more

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    asquirrel1988
    United Statesa year ago
  • Christine

    I really enjoyed this podcast. Being from St. . Louis, I loved the interviews with the local police. I had no idea this murder occurred. The creators did an excellent job of keeping you guessing, which to me means s really intriguing podcast. Wish they could do another one.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dodyjean
    United Statesa year ago
  • Well done!

    I think this podcast did a great job diving into a difficult subject. There was no way they were gonna make everyone happy, which is evident by some of the ridiculous and childish reviews. They handle the murder of Elizabeth with grace and humility, and instead of just glossing over some of the abysmal practices of the pca, they highlight those and illuminate the injustices they produce. This podcast is not entertaining, its designed to be informative and to spur conversations, with which it suc... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    vaguelyjim
    United Statesa year ago
  • Very well done

    This podcast is an engrossing story of an unsolved murder. As a woman who lived most of my life attending PCA churches, I deeply related to all they shared about the treatment of women in the denomination. (My family & I are now in a different denomination largely due to this issue). I have a number of close friends who attended CTS & knew very little (if anything) about the story of Elizabeth Mackintosh. I thank the hosts for their work and everyone who shared.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Grace Greene
    United Statesa year ago
  • Weird, creepy smear of dead people

    Did not have the impression this podcast series honored Elizabeth Mackintosh in any way. Final episodes seemed like a weird, creepy, unsubstantiated smear of a dead guy and his surviving family members. Podcasters stated David Winecoff called his pregnant wife a whale; podcasters speculated he had mental illness or Huntingtons. Podcasters brought on a guest, who took bizarre, casual, snide, and angry digs at David Winecoff and who basically whined about being purportedly bullied into being David... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Strive4Truth
    United Statesa year ago

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Some find the tone offensive or inappropriate given the serious nature of the content.
Listeners appreciate the engaging storytelling that keeps them curious and invested in the outcome.
Many reviews suggest that the series is a meaningful contribution to discussions on violence against women and truth-seeking in faith communities.
Critiques mention a perceived bias in the examination of institutional responses.
The podcast is praised for its investigative depth and compassion in handling sensitive topics.

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Talking Points

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Ep 14: The Light of Day
Q: What did Norm witness during the climb with David Winecoff?
Norm witnessed David let go during a dangerous climb, indicating possible suicidal intent.
Ep 12: The Secret Admirer
Q: Why wasn't there more attention given to the secret admirer theory?
The police may have decided to focus on the revenge motive associated with Michael's conflict instead of exploring the possibility of a romantic motive.
Ep 12: The Secret Admirer
Q: What led the investigators to latch onto Michael D**k as a suspect?
They believed he killed Elizabeth out of anger over a small conflict regarding cleaning supplies, which was seen as a psychological outburst.
Morgan's Story
Q: What ended up happening with Morgan's case?
Ian resigned as a pastor in 2023 but appealed to the PCA's highest court called the Standing Judicial Commission.
Morgan's Story
Q: Why am I bringing him up in particular?
In 2023, Ian was deemed unfit to lead his church after a sexual misconduct allegation was made public by the Tennessean newspaper.

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Focused on the unsolved murder of Elizabeth Mackintosh, this podcast explores the tragic events surrounding her death on the campus of Covenant Theological Seminary. Each episode unravels intricate narratives involving the investigation, personal accounts from individuals connected to Elizabeth, and broader social issues stemming from her murder. Notably, it examines the intersections of community dynamics, faith-based institutions, and the accountability of those involved in the investigation, creating an ongoing dialogue about justice and memory in the face of loss. Through a mix of interviews and investigative reporting, the podcast sheds light on the personal impacts of this unsolved case, making it a compelling listen for those interes... more

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