张小珺Jùn｜商业访谈录
张小珺努力做中国最优质的科技、商业访谈。 张小珺：财经作者，写作中国商业深度报道，范围包括AI、科技巨头、风险投资和知名人物，也是播客《张小珺Jùn | 商业访谈录》制作人。 如果我的访谈能陪你走一段孤独的未知的路，也许有一天可以离目的地更近一点，我就很温暖：）
| Publishes | Weekly | Episodes | 134 | Founded | 4 years ago |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Language |  ZH-CN | Number of Listeners | Categories | TechnologyBusiness |
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今天的嘉宾是印奇。
他在担任智能汽车技术公司千里科技的董事长之外，最近也迎来一个新的身份：出任大模型公司阶跃星辰的董事长。
这次，我和他聊了聊新身份、新阶段与从AI 1.0到2.0转轨与反思。
接下来是我对印奇的访谈。
期待2026年，我们和AI共同进步！
01:31 一个新的身份
15:14 残酷的淘汰赛和赌注
21:09 重新定义阶跃星辰
45:00 打后发战役
53:03 AI 1.0到2.0的转轨与反思
01:14:32 聪明人的诱惑、技术信仰与技术投机
01:37... more
过去两年，张月光仿佛消失了。
这位产品经理在2023年创造过妙鸭这样现象级AI产品，但在妙鸭走红后，仅3个月他便从阿里辞职。他说，这源于他独自在日本京都的鸭川边，坐了一夜，想清楚了许多重要的人生决定。
2024年初，张月光筹措资金，创业沐言智语。这家公司成为那年AI应用型公司里融资额最高的初创公司之一。
有人说，投资人在没有产品的情况下，对他“盲注”4轮，累计金额近三亿元人民币。也有人开玩笑，张月光是在拿着融资额的利息养公司。
过去两年，我和张月光见了很多次，他在尝试的产品形态每一次都有... more
上市前夕，智谱CEO张鹏在一次出差途中摔断伤了右腿。到达访谈地点时，他拄着一副拐杖。
当时，智谱的上市日期尚未明朗。它与MiniMax之间围绕“中国大模型第一股”的竞争仍在继续，结果并未尘埃落定。张鹏提到一句西方俚语：Break a leg（摔断一条腿），它通常意味着祝你好运。
几天之后，结果揭晓。
智谱确认于2026年1月8日登陆港交所，成为中国首家上市的大模型公司，这也意味着它将是“全球大模型第一股”。
在这个意味深长的时刻，我与张鹏进行了一场3小时长谈。
如果一百年后，智谱出现在... more
今天这集节目很特殊。
我们的录制时间是2025年12月1日，嘉宾是Manus联合创始人兼首席科学家季逸超（Peak）。就在刚过去的凌晨，Meta宣布全资收购Manus。而在节目录制的彼时，收购事件尚未发生。
最终，这期节目成为了Manus最后的访谈。
00:56 正道少年的荒蛮历险记
30:27 哦，我们集体做了一个错误决定！
01:07:10 Manus：从0到1亿美金ARR
02:32:10 人工智能更像制造业
02:59:51 我很害怕Manus变得复杂
《95. 对Man... more
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- 内容很棒，受益匪浅
访谈对象都说业内大咖，访谈内容节奏紧凑，不拖泥带水，受益匪浅！
Apple Podcasts5平哥无敌 vChina2 months ago - 封面有点雷人
如果初心是想要做有深度的podcast
Apple Podcasts1大江大河阿拉善China8 months ago - 有深度，有广度
很惊讶podcast上有这么有耐心有广度的科技访谈节目。节目时长也让嘉宾有足够的时间有机会进入一些技术细节。感谢张小珺！
Apple Podcasts5Chidaiwong
United States9 months ago - Show note做得很用心
小珺的show note做得很用心，专业名词基本都能找到，声音也挺好。
Apple Podcasts5JM8888$United States9 months ago - #93：AI 玄学大师开讲？几个小时的意识流实验
我是连续听完几期的听众。
如果单纯比较不同嘉宾对 AI 意识的理解和看法，那我只能说#93 这一期堪称神秘学大师级别，玄之又玄，完全听不出什么实际逻辑。相比之下，之前的嘉宾至少会先谨慎定义意识，并结合 AI 和机器人技术探讨其在物理世界的应用和可能性，这才是有价值的讨论。
能不能在节目开始前插播嘉宾的精彩片段，提醒一下听众这期到底有没有干货？不然真是浪费几个小时的时间才发现听了一场哲学梦话。不过，作为忠实听众，我还是会给 5 星，毕竟其他几期质量还是在线的。
Apple Podcasts5MarconoBrazilUnited Statesa year ago
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