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Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing

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Affordable Housing
National Housing Conference
Racial Equity
Mortgage Bankers Association
New Markets Tax Credit
Public-Private Partnerships
Homelessness
Low Income Housing Tax Credit
Bipartisanship
Housing Supply
Neighborhood Homes Investment Act
Atlanta
Single-Family Rental
Housing Policy
Interest Rates
Detroit
Capital Magnet Fund
Black Homeownership Collaborative
Rent Control
Veteran Affairs Loans

Beyond Four Walls: Conversations on Affordable Housing" is brought to you by the National Housing Conference (NHC), the nation's oldest and broadest coalition of affordable housing leaders in America. During our podcast, we will delve deep into America's pressing housing issues and get to know some of the people that have devoted their lives to seeking tangible, impactful, and achievable solutions... more

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On December 3, the National Housing Conference hosted its Solutions for Affordable Housing convening at the National Press Club. The event brought together policymakers and affordable housing stakeholders to discuss tangible, impactful, and achievabl... more

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In this week's episode, NHC President and CEO David Dworkin sits down with Kate Rodgers, Chair and Policy Director of the Student HOMES Coalition, to explore the growing student housing crisis and the power of youth-led advocacy in shaping housing po... more

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In this week's episode, NHC President and CEO David Dworkin joins NHC Chair Ali Solis and Vice Chair Ralph Perrey to reflect on the key policy priorities and developments that shaped NHC's work in 2025 and discuss what they mean for the housing chall... more

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On December 3, 2025, the National Housing Conference (NHC) hosted our Solutions for Affordable Housing convening at the National Press Club in Washington, DC.

In this week's episode, we revisit the convening's fireside chat between NHC's President ... more

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Recent Guests

Lisa Rice
President and CEO of the National Fair Housing Alliance, the nation's only national civil rights agency solely dedicated to eliminating all forms of housing discrimination.
National Fair Housing Alliance
Episode: NFHA's Lisa Rice on Civil Rights and Housing Justice
Bill McBride
Founder and writer behind the CalculatedRisk blog
CalculatedRisk blog
Episode: Bill McBride of the CalculatedRisk blog talks economic trends, mortgage rates, & housing policy
Ann Oliva
CEO of the National Alliance to End Homelessness, a public education, advocacy and capacity building organization dedicated to ending homelessness in the United States.
National Alliance to End Homelessness
Episode: A Conversation with Ann Oliva, National Alliance to End Homelessness
Ed Brady
President and CEO of the Home Builders Institute
Home Builders Institute
Episode: A Conversation with Ed Brady, Home Builders Institute
Sharon Wilson Géno
President of the National Multifamily Housing Council
National Multifamily Housing Council
Episode: A Conversation with Sharon Wilson Géno, National Multifamily Housing Council
Senator Mark Warner
Senior Senator from Virginia and chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence
U.S. Senate
Episode: A Fireside Chat with Senator Mark Warner (D-Va.)
Debbie Dingell
Congresswoman from Michigan's 6th District and advocate for affordable housing
Episode: A Conversation with Congresswoman Debbie Dingell (D-MI)
Bob Broeksmit
President and CEO of the Mortgage Bankers Association
Mortgage Bankers Association
Episode: A Conversation with Bob Broeksmit, Mortgage Bankers Association
Adrianne Todman
Senior official performing the duties of the Secretary at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.
U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development
Episode: A Conversation with Adrianne Todman, HUD Agency Head

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David Dworkin
President and CEO of the National Housing Conference, Host of Beyond Four Walls, David Dworkin brings his extensive knowledge and experience in affordable housing advocacy to the discussions.

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A Fireside Chat with Senator Mark Warner (D-Va.)
Q: What are some of the housing policies that you're planning on pushing for and staying focused on in the next Congress?
Senator Warner emphasizes the importance of housing affordability and plans to advocate for the expansion of LIHTC, the Neighborhood Homes Act, and the Lyft Act among other initiatives to support housing development and homeownership for marginalized groups.
A Conversation with Bob Broeksmit, Mortgage Bankers Association
Q: Tell me a little bit about what's happening in the commercial market.
Bob outlines the various components of the commercial market, including recent challenges such as rent control and investment trends.
A Conversation with Bob Broeksmit, Mortgage Bankers Association
Q: So how are you looking at DCJA and your members and what are the most important elements?
Bob discusses the importance of LIHTC and how they aim to engage with policymakers to push for necessary changes.
A Conversation with Bob Broeksmit, Mortgage Bankers Association
Q: How do you see this in terms of opportunities and risks moving forward?
Bob emphasizes that housing is a bipartisan issue and that he believes both parties are listening to voters' frustrations about housing costs.
A Conversation with Bob Broeksmit, Mortgage Bankers Association
Q: So let's start with my favorite question, and then we'll get into, I heard we had an election recently that may create a few changes.
Bob shares that he started in the mortgage business somewhat accidentally after doing various jobs and eventually landing at a small mortgage division.

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Focused on the critical issues surrounding affordable housing, content revolves around discussions with leaders and experts in various sectors—ranging from civil rights advocacy to economic analysis and government policy. The conversations often shed light on systemic barriers affecting housing accessibility, highlight innovative solutions like public-private partnerships, and emphasize the importance of legislation in addressing affordability. Unique to this series is the blend of personal narratives with data-driven insights, fostering a deep understanding of the housing landscape and advocating for equity in housing access. Listeners can expect not only to engage with the complex details of housing policy but also to connect with the hum... more

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