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John Boyd
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OODA Loop
PTSD
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Norman Ohler
Human-Centered Design
Alzheimer's Disease
Militaray Reformers
Complexity Theory
Mental Health Crisis
Competitive Prototyping
Risk Management
Neuroscience
Agile Methodologies
Liberating Structures
Braintap
Nazi Germany
CIA
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No Way Out: The #1 Podcast on John Boyd’s OODA Loop, The Flow System, and Navigating UncertaintySponsored by AGLX — a global network powering adaptive leadership, enterprise agility, and resilient teams in complex, high-stakes environments.Home to the deepest explorations of Colonel John R. Boyd’s OODA Loop (Observe–Orient–Decide–Act), Destruction and Creation, Patterns of Conflict — and the offic... more

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In this profound episode of No Way Out, hosts Moose and Ponch sit down with Dr. Mihaela Ulieru – robotics pioneer, AI ethics advisor, and governance expert – for a mind-expanding conversation that bridges military strategy, morality, ... more

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Explore the authentic OODA loop with Jon Becker on No Way Out Podcast – John Boyd's strategies for tactical leadership and decision making

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What if the maps we’re all using are lying to us?

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A grain elevator turned upside down. A Chevy bumper cut in half. A Model T steering sector pulled from the yard. That’s not a lab; that’s the birth of the modern snowmobile—and the clearest proof that real creativity starts with what’... more

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Recent Guests

Jon Becker
CEO of Aardvark Tactical, author, and expert in OODA Loop applications
Aardvark Tactical
Episode: Beyond the Linear OODA Loop: Jon Becker Breaks Down Authentic OODA Loop
Max Borders
Writer and commentator from The World of Reorientation
Episode: Unrestricted Decline: Debt, Inflation and The Road to Serfdom (w/ Max Borders)
Mitchell Johnson
His family founded Polaris Industries and created the snowmobile.
Polaris Industries
Episode: The REAL Story of the Snowmobile – John Boyd’s Famous Metaphor Comes to Life
Dr. Nico Grundmann
Emergency physician and co-founder of Ember Health
Ember Health
Episode: MEDEVAC to Mental Health: Ketamine – 80 % Suicidal Thoughts Gone in Days | Dr. Grundmann
David Cochrane
Head coach and director of basketball operations at Norfolk Collegiate School
Norfolk Collegiate School
Episode: From Cockpit to Hardwood: OODA Loop & CLA Basketball with David Cochrane
Tib Roibu
Romanian researcher focused on cognitive systems and geometric cognition.
Episode: Polynon Theory: Tib Roibu on Cognitive Gravity & Boyd's OODA Loop
Ben Ford
Royal Marine Commando with extensive experience and knowledge in Boyd's theories
Episode: Agentic AI Thinks Like Boyd: The OODA Upgrade LLMs Can’t Touch
Brent Sadler
Retired U.S. Navy Captain and strategic thinker
Heritage Foundation
Episode: Naval Power in Action with CAPT Brent Sadler, USN (Ret.)
Dan Mapes
Director of the Spatial Web Foundation and Founder of Verses AI
Spatial Web Foundation, Verses AI
Episode: Spatial Web + Active Inference: Beyond LLMs | Dan Mapes

Hosts

Mark McGrath
Co-host and primary voice discussing military strategy and adaptive leadership principles.
Brian Pont Rivera
Co-host providing insights from the business and educational sectors, focusing on the application of themes discussed.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 69 ratings
  • Too much politics

    What previously was a great podcast has degraded into politics and trumpism.

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    Christian Fredriksson
    Sweden10 months ago
  • Horrible

    Andrew mcluhan... horrible... just talks garbage.... terrible

    Sorry for the rating

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    No11111166666
    United Statesa year ago
  • Interesting and Informative

    Great topics and diverse guests always with a tie-in to Boyd’s OODA loop and how that can help you be better at whatever you do.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mdbelmo
    United Statesa year ago
  • Really thought provoking, excellent guests

    I like it a lot

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Barks787
    Australiaa year ago
  • Insightful and Thought provoking

    Love the show! Insightful and thought provoking.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cBass-2
    United Statesa year ago

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Generally regarded as insightful with thought-provoking content, particularly around strategic applications of the OODA loop.
Praised for featuring diverse guests with relevant expertise that ties back to core themes.
Listeners appreciate the practical takeaways and tactical insights shared by the hosts.
Some critiques suggest a disconnect between military-focused discussions and broader audience relevance.

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MEDEVAC to Mental Health: Ketamine – 80 % Suicidal Thoughts Gone in Days | Dr. Grundmann
Q: What can you tell us about blending SSRIs and ketamine?
Ketamine can be safely mixed with SSRIs; it doesn't harm nor interfere with their effects, which may enhance treatment outcomes.
MEDEVAC to Mental Health: Ketamine – 80 % Suicidal Thoughts Gone in Days | Dr. Grundmann
Q: Can ketamine help with substance abuse disorders?
Some studies suggest ketamine may help with alcoholism and other substance use disorders, but it requires a comprehensive treatment plan.
The REAL Story of the Snowmobile – John Boyd’s Famous Metaphor Comes to Life
Q: Mitchell, can you take us back to the history of the snowmobile?
Mitchell Johnson explains that his father and uncle founded Polaris Industries post WWII, and they innovatively created the snowmobile by synthesizing available materials and technologies.
Polynon Theory: Tib Roibu on Cognitive Gravity & Boyd's OODA Loop
Q: Why is this research important?
It aims to understand our own subjectivity and its relation to something bigger, examining the nature of consciousness.
Polynon Theory: Tib Roibu on Cognitive Gravity & Boyd's OODA Loop
Q: Can you explain what polynon is?
The polynomial is a measure of the non-measurable, representing consciousness through geometric principles.

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Centered around the concepts developed by Colonel John Boyd, the content focuses on the OODA Loop framework, which is used to enhance decision-making and agility across various high-stakes environments including business, military, and personal contexts. There is a strong emphasis on topics such as adaptive leadership, mental health, and innovative strategies to navigate uncertainty, all framed within a broader exploration of dynamic systems and the complexities of modern decision-making. Additionally, discussions often feature expert guests who lend insights on applying these concepts in practical settings, making the content not only thought-provoking but also applicable to various professional fields.

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