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What Rough Beast, hosted by Virginia Heffernan (Wired, Trumpcast) and Stephen Metcalf (Slate, Culture Gabfest) is a podcast where we bear witness to America’s demise, and ask what might be built from the rubble. The sludge. The sparkly phosphorescent faerie dust of recombinant DNA. It is a spiritual successor to Trumpcast, but with a radical reimagining. Instead of focusing on opposing Trump or tr... more

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This week on What Rough Beast, we talk to Trevor Mitchell, a reporter on the ground in Minneapolis for the nonprofit publication MinnPost. We wanted to discuss with him what everyday life looks like under ICE occupation—and how the Twin Cities are fi... more

This week we talk to “What Rough Beast” regular Cy Canterel about fractured realities, fascism’s fatal flaw, and why keeping a diary might be the most radical act you can do right now. She joined us for a live this past week.

We discuss:

* How the... more

This week, on the occasion of the five-year anniversary of the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, I want to share a couple of conversations I had on the first anniversary of the insurrection with Reps. Jamie Raskin and Hakeem Jeffries, and Jamelle... more

This week we talk to Fred Kaplan, the national security columnist for Slate and author of seven books, including The Bomb: Presidents, Generals, and the Secret History of Nuclear War (his most recent non-fiction), The Insurgents: David Petraeus and t... more

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Jamie Raskin
Democratic Representative who managed the second impeachment of Donald Trump
House of Representatives
Episode: On the 5th Anniversary of the Insurrection
Hakeem Jeffries
House Majority Leader who was present during the January 6th event
House of Representatives
Episode: On the 5th Anniversary of the Insurrection
Fred Kaplan
National Security Columnist for Slate
Slate
Episode: Trump's Godfather foreign policy
Kristianna Smith
A liberation cultural worker active on TikTok, focusing on transformative community practices.
Episode: Harvesting chaos with Kristianna Smith
Mark Bray
Historian and organizer, author of Antifa, The Anti-Fascist Handbook
Rutgers University
Episode: What Mark Bray Knew in 2017
Cy Canterel
Feral scholar, focuses on systems theory, technology, art, and la condition humaine.
Cy Canterel Substack
Episode: The Edgelord Apocalypse
Molly McKew
Expert on the Baltics and on Ukraine, following the war closely
Episode: The Mitochondria Conspiracy
Sarah Stillman
A Pulitzer and MacArthur winner who teaches at Yale and writes for The New Yorker, with a focus on social inequality, particularly in the criminal justice system.
The New Yorker
Episode: The Deportation Machine
Alastair Smith
Bernhardt Denmark Chair of International Relations and Professor of Political Science at New York University
New York University
Episode: The Dictator Expert Who's Not Worried

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Virginia Heffernan
Host of What Rough Beast, known for her incisive commentary on cultural and political issues.
Stephen Metcalf
Co-host of What Rough Beast, recognized for his insights into cultural criticism and political discourse.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 103 ratings
  • My fave

    Layered and weird and always interesting.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Susy PD
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • Fighting fascism while feasting on it

    Enjoy the pod, but it’s bonkers that so-called leftists can still be “happy omnivores” in 2025. Animal Ag is a fascistic system of exploitation, domination, and ecological ruin. Are you really going to wait until most people go vegan before you find the courage to be nice to cows and help prevent total environmental collapse?

    Or maybe you just haven’t really thought about it. Watch Earthlings to see the grotesque violence you are causing to helpless sentient beings. Watch Dairy Is Scary if yo... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Corey Lee PhD
    United States6 months ago
  • Weirdly helpful

    Not that you’ll feel better but all the same

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    OrangeBeanie
    United States9 months ago
  • Yes!

    Smart, funny, and irreverent, What Rough Beast is exactly the podcast we need right now. Heffernan and Metcalf don’t just dissect the rubble—they find the strange glitter in it, asking the big, imaginative questions most shows don’t dare to touch. A must-listen.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LorettaDraper
    United States9 months ago
  • Right podcast for the moment!

    What happens when two of your favorite Slate podcasters get together? You get a great podcast for this moment.

    Like the best podcasts, the first act is like a conversation with your slightly smarter friends who perfectly articulate what is rattling around your brain (even when you don’t agree!). And the interviews are timely, helpful and well done.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    aquamarinemom
    United States9 months ago

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Listeners commend the hosts' chemistry and ability to articulate complex topics in engaging ways, while some note the critical and nuanced approach to controversial subjects.
Many find the podcast timely and relevant for current challenges, often marking it as a necessary commentary on the political climate.

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Trump's Godfather foreign policy
Q: What do you make of the situation in Venezuela?
Fred outlines the troubling political climate under Maduro and critiques Trump's actions, suggesting they could inadvertently strengthen Maduro's regime.
Trump's Godfather foreign policy
Q: Are we at war? What is going on in the world?
Fred discusses the ambiguity of Trump's blockade on Venezuela and what it means in terms of war intentions.
The Deportation Machine
Q: What is going on so far in these detention facilities?
There is a staggering new reach of and resources behind immigration enforcement affecting a range of individuals, including those who previously would have been granted prosecutorial discretion.
Why Populist Revolutions Always Fail
Q: If we think of JD Vance as this face of this thing called traditionalism, what a lure does it have to Americans?
JD Vance represents a new localism and a withdrawal from globalism, appealing to those feeling alienated from economic and political power.
How to resist the regime
Q: Why don't you just walk us through your own experience and how you came to do this human rights work in the US?
Yaqiu Wang reflects on her birth under China's illegal third-child policy, her subsequent experiences in the education system, and her growing realization of the importance of human rights, ultimately leading her to advocate for these issues in the U.S.

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Focusing on the current political landscape, insightful discussions cover a broad range of topics including national security, cultural activism, political violence, and the dynamics of power in society. The podcast is characterized by its imaginative approach to contemporary issues, often drawing connections between literary, philosophical, and political dimensions. The hosts and their expert guests meticulously explore the complexities surrounding pressing societal matters, asking thought-provoking questions about the trajectory of democracy and the potential for societal change amidst crises. Notably, the conversation often critiques conventional political narratives and offers fresh perspectives, making this an essential listen for thos... more

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2. Hakeem Jeffries
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4. Kristianna Smith
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