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The Former Lawyer Podcast

Sarah Cottrell
Career Transition
Mental Health
Work-Life Balance
Law
Law Profession
Burnout
Career Change
Lawyers
Therapy
Commercial Real Estate
Real Estate Development
Law School
Depression
Big Law
Transitioning Careers
Legal Profession
Vacations
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy
Dialectical Behavioral Therapy
Existential Crisis

Do you hate working as a lawyer? Are you an unhappy lawyer who wants to leave the law, but isn't sure what to do next? Do your family and friends think you're crazy for wanting to leave the law, or are you too afraid to tell them you don't want to be a lawyer? The Former Lawyer Podcast is for you! Each week, host Sarah Cottrell interviews a different former lawyer who has left the law behind. Hear... more

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Maybe you're thinking about leaving the law, but you aren't quite sure you're ready to start working through the process. You're thinking, "I really think this isn't for me, I definitely want to get out eventually, but maybe not at this exact moment.... more

When lawyers start thinking about leaving, they focus on the practical steps. What career should I pursue? How do I update my resume? What skills do I need? Those things matter, but Sarah consistently hears from lawyers that they underestimated somet... more

Most people who are thinking about leaving the law spend a long time in a familiar place. They know their job feels awful, they say it to themselves and to other people, and they imagine how much better things could be somewhere else. 

But imagining... more

There comes a point where the math you’ve been doing in your head stops adding up. You spent years in school. You passed the bar. You took on the loans. You built the career you were told would make it all worth it. Now you’re tired, anxious, or chec... more

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Recent Guests

Zi Lin
Former lawyer turned artist
Episode: You Don’t Have to Earn the Right to Leave the Law with Zi Lin
Tiffany Obeng
Former practicing lawyer turned author and publisher focusing on diverse children's literature
Sugar Cookie Books
Episode: From Biglaw Impostor Syndrome to Publishing Diverse Children's Books with Tiffany Obeng
Ben Chiriboga
An executive in legal tech and former lawyer
Nexl
Episode: Escaping Lawyer Burnout for Legal Tech with Ben Chiriboga
Bryson Malcolm
Legal recruiter and founder of Mosaic Search Partners, focused on representing historically underrepresented attorneys in Biglaw
Mosaic Search Partners
Episode: Legal Recruiter Bryson Malcolm Calls Out Firms That Abandon Diversity
Dan Lemon
Lawyer and member of The Collab who practices family law after leaving big law.
Episode: From Biglaw Misery to a Meaningful Career in Family Law
Elisa Schatzman
Co-founder of the Legal Accountability Project
Legal Accountability Project
Episode: Supporting The Legal Accountability Project Because Transparency Shouldn’t Be Controversial
Laura Markham
Former attorney turned General Counsel for a tax-deferred exchange company
1031 Corp
Episode: When Tragedy Leads to Career Changes and Better Balance with Laura Markham
Ed Cottrell
Legal tech professional with experience as a former lawyer
Ironclad
Episode: Advice to Get a Job in Tech after Law with Ed Cottrell
Amisha DeYoung-Dominguez
Staff member for a member of Congress and former attorney.
Episode: Why Amisha DeYoung-Dominguez Left the Law for Public Service

Host

Sarah Cottrell
Host of discussions centered on the experiences of former lawyers transitioning out of the legal profession, providing insights and support.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 131 ratings
  • Helpful to hear the truth

    As an attorney, I’ve gotten so used to lying to myself. Listening to this podcast reminds me of truths I’ve buried for a long time. And that tells me I’m not alone. It’s eerie. Thank you so much Sarah, for doing this work.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kimacima
    United Statesa year ago
  • A must for anyone even thinking about thinking about leaving the law

    If you’re feeling the push to leave the law Sarah shares incredible and actionable insights + hear from former lawyers about their experiences leaving the law.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    TheStaceyHarris
    United States3 years ago
  • Thank You

    Thank you for this podcast. Relatable and well thought out. Feels great that someone gets it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Meggers1233
    United States4 years ago
  • Great podcast!

    So happy to have found this podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Elizabeth in VA
    United States4 years ago
  • Great interviews

    I feel seen!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pehmbeh
    United States4 years ago

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Some reviews suggest that the audio quality varies and could use improvement, but the content remains impactful.
Listeners appreciate the authenticity and relatability of the discussions about life after law.
Overall, the podcast is praised for its supportive approach to a sensitive topic, aiding those considering leaving the legal field.
Many find comfort and inspiration in the stories shared by former lawyers, often feeling a sense of community.

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#166
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Apple Podcasts
#186
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Apple Podcasts
#188
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Apple Podcasts
#217
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From Biglaw Misery to a Meaningful Career in Family Law
Q: Why did you decide to become a lawyer in the first place?
I was the kid who always wanted to be a lawyer and I didn't have any lawyers in my family. I didn’t know really what practicing law was all about.
From Biglaw Misery to a Meaningful Career in Family Law
Q: Can you just briefly introduce yourself to the listeners?
My name is Dan Lemon and I am not a former lawyer. Spoiler alert. I still practice law.
Escaping the Legal Grind to Build a Balanced Life with Dan Branagan
Q: Can you talk a little bit about sort of what your thinking was and how you ended up at the firm?
I was hoping that moving to a more low-key area would help with balance, but I wasn't fully out on private practice just yet.
How a Misalignment of Values and Career Helped a Lawyer Become a Therapist with David Sazant
Q: Can you talk a little bit about how you have thought about what type of therapy clients you want to work with?
I primarily work with men aged 20 to 60 and professionals struggling with their value systems.
How Adrian Hern Beat Legal Burnout and Transformed Her Career
Q: What did you learn about your identity while working together?
Adrian learned to separate her identity as a lawyer from her true self, realizing she was out of alignment with her values.

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This podcast focuses on the experiences of individuals who have transitioned away from legal careers, exploring themes of dissatisfaction, mental health, community support, and personal fulfillment. Through interviews with former lawyers, the content often emphasizes the emotional and psychological journeys associated with leaving the profession, highlighting various alternative paths, including entrepreneurial ventures and creative pursuits. It is particularly aimed at those feeling trapped in their legal careers, offering relatable insights and practical advice for navigating career changes and overcoming common hesitations.

What sets this podcast apart is its candid exploration of the struggles faced by lawyers contemplating a significa... more

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1. Zi Lin
2. Tiffany Obeng
3. Ben Chiriboga
4. Bryson Malcolm
5. Dan Lemon
6. Elisa Schatzman
7. Laura Markham
8. Ed Cottrell

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