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It started with the 2014 disappearance of an Upper Michigan man named Chris Regan. The two-year investigation into his disappearance would take authorities on a strange journey into a world of sex, drugs, pig farming, alleged cannibalism, and serial murder; all stemming from a wedding day pact between Kelly and Jason Cochran, that resulted in the murder of at least two men. Investigative reporter,... more

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Season finale.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark

Featuring:

Eric Carter-Landin from True Consequences and Crimelines & Consequences

Albert Perkins

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* Religiosity and Attitudes Toward Lesbi... more

To better understand Lorenzo and Schweickert, their possible other crimes, and their MOs and victimology, Josh chats with clinical psychologist Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential) about killers who work in pairs, BDSM, Antisocial Personality Disorder,... more

At trial and at sentencing, Lorenzo's many surviving victims testified against him, including the impactful statements made by Albert Perkins, who Lorenzo kidnapped and assaulted in February of 2000. The testimony and eventual plea deals made by both... more

Scott Schweickert's house is searched, disturbing photos are found on Steven Lorenzo's computer, more Lorenzo assault victims come forward, someone confesses, and another gay man goes missing.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produ... more

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Eric Carter-Landin
Host of True Consequences Podcast and co-host of Crime Lines and Consequences Podcast.
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Episode: Unsafe Spaces | Oh, God
Albert Perkins
Episode: Unsafe Spaces | Oh, God
Dr. Scott
A licensed clinical psychologist who works in forensics with law enforcement in Los Angeles.
LA Not So Confidential podcast
Episode: Unsafe Spaces | Tacit Permissions & Behavioral Drifts
Drew Mackie
Host of the Gayest Episode Ever podcast
Episode: Unsafe Spaces | It Was Steven
Jason Leroy
Friend of Josh Hallmark and fellow podcaster
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Episode: Unsafe Spaces | I'm Gay, I'm F*cked

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Josh Hallmark
Host and investigative reporter known for sensitivity toward victims and thorough storytelling.

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3.4 out of 5 stars from 1.3k ratings
  • Decent content but…

    As mentioned the content is interesting in that Kelly being a female serial killer is a somewhat unknown entity. And her personality of being incredibly manipulative is intriguingly maddening. That said. I don’t think there is one episode where the host doesn’t name drop a serial killer he did a podcast on previously. He seems to use an opportunity to mention him whether it has relevance or not. That became increasingly frustrating as the pod cast went on.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Cravincofe
    United States3 months ago
  • Great deep dive into Kelly Cochran

    Was looking for a deep dive into Kelly Cochrane after the 20/20 episode aired this week and found this! Love it. Surprised there isn’t a full docuseries on this stories as it’s absolutely fascinating!

    The interview with Laura Frizzo in episode 7 is fantastic. She’s really an incredible woman, and that’s coming from myself a criminal defense attorney and public defender — we don’t typically admire law enforcement.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MLT APD
    United States5 months ago
  • Not great.

    How did the editors not tell this “host” how iron is pronounced?! I-run? Are you kidding. I feel like running away. The story is interesting but not enough to listen to this dude.

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    1
    erinbb08
    United States8 months ago
  • smart narrator sounds uneducated to be annoying.

    dude. please learn how to properly pronounce iron. i-run is not how it's pronounced anywhere much less in the upper midwest. don't tell me no one's corrected you. you sound like a indiana hillbilly.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    LucyDog29
    United Statesa year ago
  • So hard to hear

    I am really interested in this podcast and think the writing is great. However the sound quality is so bad. You can’t hear the recordings of the trial almost at all and then the narrator is too loud. Only made it 2.5 episodes in.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    SweetBoga
    United Statesa year ago

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Unsafe Spaces | Tacit Permissions & Behavioral Drifts
Q: How did he get away with it for so long?
Lorenzo was able to operate without consequences due to societal shame surrounding the gay community and the lack of responsive law enforcement.
Unsafe Spaces | Tacit Permissions & Behavioral Drifts
Q: How do people like this find each other?
People like Lorenzo and Schweickert likely had significant previous histories of violence that brought them together, as both had histories of boundary violations and were primed for such behaviors.
Unsafe Spaces | Open Secret
Q: What kind of protections were you hoping for?
I was learning the case on my own, and they were supposed to keep me abreast of every change and whatnot, but they never did.
Unsafe Spaces | Open Secret
Q: Was there anything odd about the wine itself?
Yes, it tasted a tad funny, which I convinced myself maybe it was corked.
Unsafe Spaces | It Was Steven
Q: Do you go to gay bars or gay clubs often?
I did before pandemic, but I've been a few times since then. It's a little less comfortable for me now.

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What is The Pact about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A gripping narrative unfolds around the enigmatic case of Chris Regan's disappearance, drawing listeners into a complex web of crime that spans sex, drugs, and alleged cannibalistic practices. The storytelling intricately combines investigative journalism with personal anecdotes from key players, particularly Kelly Cochran, revealing her involvement in a series of chilling events tied to a wedding day pact. Unraveling layers of deception and a labyrinth of testimonies, the discourse allows for insights into the psyche of those embroiled in both the crimes and the judicial proceedings that aim to uncover the truth behind the murders. The unique angle of exposing societal issues alongside individual narratives sets this exploration apart, att... more

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